The tongue is mostly black. Challenging for an LG12 hike. A lot of up and down and some steep sections. There is a wonderful anecdote about Appy taking a group of women to his camp on Turtle Bay, ans when it came time to get back in the boat, he informed them that there was a rattlesnake … After you reach the first peak, there’s no more signs letting you know what summit you’re at. Females give birth to 4 to 21 young in late summer; the young are marked similarly to adults, but colors are brighter. Our team serves as reptile wholesale suppliers for a large number of pet stores, zoos, and even private collectors. You are the top of the first mountain in this loop hike, First Peak. Dogs are also able to use this trail but must be kept on leash. Two people all day excluding parking lot. Views From The Top recommends that all hikers read and familiarize themselves with the hikeSafe web site before venturing into the back country. The tongue of the Rattlesnake is forked and it picks up microscopic airborne particles from the air. I needed to hike the Tongue Mountain Range, a peninsula that juts into Lake George in the eastern Adirondack Park, for a guidebook I was writing. We are two avid hikers in our 50’s. There’s a little bit of everything on this trail- some mud, rocks, overgrowth, views, and runnable trail. 13.6 miles, so be prepared. Didn’t see any snakes. We offer quality and a variety of reptiles and amphibians throughout the United States. They said "watch out on Turtle !". See the FAQ for instructions. We hiked this trail on 9/6/20 in a clockwise direction, and the trail was in great condition. It looks PERFECT up there for them ! Popular hiking trails traverse the rugged uplands of the Tongue Mountain Range. We started late, so proceeded clockwise to tackle the 3 peaks first. Beautiful views. We hiked the loop clockwise. The trail markers are very easy to follow, however they are your only markers. My GPS registered 12.8 miles (All Trails indicates 14.8), but we did not do the point. System contains over 18 miles of marked foot trails. Great views- but with the deep, loose leaves and loose gravel,I thought the steep descents were really dangerous and more than once I wished I’d brought a hiking partner. The “flats” aren’t flat, but they aren’t difficult either; more of an expectation looking at the elevation map. There were some sketchy sections. If you have forgotten your password, please click here to send an e-mail requesting your password be reset. Despite their size, cryptic coloration allows them to be easily concealed. Young snakes may have spots of white or yellow under their chin. This is a long loop but very gratifying. Each complete with deadly fangs, these snakes feed on mammals and toads, with larger snakes even dine on animals as large as a prairie dog. Also, this trail was not crowded at all, but I did hike it on a Friday not Saturday or Sunday, also the parking lot is not that big, so I would try and get there early when you go. The other two varieties, the Massasauga and the Midget Faded Rattlesnake, will grow to around 30 inches. The views were superb, and they got better from each peak (heading south). Lower Tongue and NW Bay loop. Explore around this area for great views out over the lake. DEC said that rattlesnakes were wiped out at many New York locations, killed for the bounties once paid for dead rattlesnakes, or because they were considered a pest, or they were taken for the exotic pet trade. They are the largest venomous snake in New York State, so you should be extra cautious while traversing this area. Five Mile Mountain (7 miles RT difficult). The trail is primarily used for hiking, snowshoeing, and backpacking and is best used from April until October. Insects and mud were present, but modest. This organ picks up the particles collected by the tongue and sends messages to the snake's brain identifying the scent as food, enemy, mate or other object or substance. Unless you simply want to do a long strenuous hike, do some of the other great trails in the area. So relax and snap a few photos. Then you’ll walk further and see the different trails you can access. Incredibly slow going on downhills. Super fun, tougher hike with spectacular views of Lake George and the surrounding Adirondacks done on an early September, cool, mostly sunny day. Be sure to read the Terms of Service before using VFTT.org. Head along the lake towards Montcalm Point and you will return to here on the way out. Strictly Reptiles is an online reptile store that employs some of the best reptile breeders in the industry. These snakes are quite active during the day, which increases the chance of sightings. Be aware of rattlesnakes in this area. But they are common in several areas: Tongue Mountain; Black Mountain Point (I understand they … I followed the mileage I’d gone on my phone to know I was at the end, and I had gone over, what looked like 3 peaks. No snakes no ice minimal mud. We loved it! Great day! On slipping back into the mouth, the tongue touches a spot on the roof of the mouth known as the Jacobson’s organ or the vomeronasal organ. Start hiking down the trail which will cross the outlet of Northwest Bay shortly and then come to a trail junction. The scales are weakly keeled, and there are 25-27 dorsal scale rows at midbody. That being said, the peaks are GORGEOUS! Our peak climbing was 30+ min miles and our pace on the “flats” was 20+ min miles. They are also entirely absent in Glens Falls (where I live). I underestimated this one. Fantastic views of the narrows, multiple ecosystems...it’s long, second half gets a little old. This snake is commonly 3- to 4 feet long and rather plump compared to other kingsnakes. (Most of the leaves were down) There were a few scrambles, nicely placed stepping stones and some blow downs blocking the trail. My GPS read 14.8 which is different than other reviewers- not sure why the discrepancy but it really is an arduous hike. They enjoy the shelter in the wooded areas but also enjoy basking in the sun on exposed rocks. I wore trail runners; my wife ankle high boots. Take exit 24 off of I-87 and head east on the Bolton Valley-Riverbank Road toward Bolton Landing. This is a popular and easily reached lookout over northern Lake George. As they stick their tongues out, what they are really doing is taking in a deep breath. Clay Meadows is 4.5 miles from the turn and the trailhead is on the east side of the road next to a rock quarry filled with water. 12.5 miles and a bit over 8 hours with decent breaks. Behavior of Rattlers: In the northern areas of their range, an… I jogged for a couple of minutes every 10 min to get out of there in a reasonable time. Most of the mountain is a challenging hike. ... open the mouth, let the tongue dangle, salivate and get dirt in the mouth, roll onto its back and become motionless. Views from all 3 were spectacular and the descent out wasn't bad, just long. Prairie Rattlesnakes den communally, but range up to 7 miles from the dens during the summer. Mix of icy and muddy/wet today. Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail is a 14.8 mile heavily trafficked loop trail located near Bolton Landing, New York that features a lake and is only recommended for very experienced adventurers. TONGUE MOUNTAIN RANGE - Note there are many rattlesnakes in this area. The 10.5 mile Tongue Mountain Range Trail is a popular hiking destination in the Lake George Wild Forest of the southeastern Adirondacks. The trail features many spectacular views as well as two lean to shelters for backpackers. Tip: There is a specific species of rattlesnack that only lives in the Tongue Range so be aware of this, not necessarily scared of this as they certainly are more afraid of you than you are of them. Def think the clockwise up to fifth was easier but the views were amazing and made the effort worth it. We had a little conversation. If your current e-mail address is not the one registered with vftt, you should include the registered one in the body of your password request. Arrive early during busy season since parking spots are limited. A great loop hike that brings you along the shore of Lake George then over 3 small peaks on the Tongue Mountain Range. Hiked the trail on 9/6 and encountered one rattle snake on the trail. Ascents to the peaks are mostly in the 10-20% grade range while the descent from the last peak (First Peak) to the lakefront is steeper and requires some scrambling. This was a great trail! I am delighted to know about you and your long association with rattlesnakes on Tongue Mountain! Highlight is French Point Mt views up and down N and S of the lake. Perfect hiking weather. Numerous birds inhabit or visit the area including various waterfowl and Peregrine Falcons . It took us 6 hours and we recorded 10 miles. I used my Garmin FR 945 watch. To reach Five Mile Mountain you'll first climb the 1966 foot Brown Mountain and pass the Five Mile Mountain Lean To. and 11 minutes. Rattlesnakes held in captivity live an average of 15 years. Look for nesting pairs of Peregrine Falcons & waterfowl. From here you will head down to Deer Leap Junction and head back to the car. But these snakes typically calm down quickly if held. Be aware of timber rattlesnakes, as this area is known to have rattlers. I, too, questioned my solo hiking. No fee to park here. specializing in boa morphs/ball morphs/blue tongue skinks and anything else reptile related!!! Clay Meadow trail at top of Tongue Mountain Hwy (Rt.9N). Slippery leaves don't boost confidence. Rattlesnakes have a forked tongue that they flick up and down. Plus there are sections where the descents are just not fun. These are large snakes some approaching 5 feet (1.5 m) in length. Tongue “Mountain” is actually a series of connected peaks running nine miles along the spine of a peninsula that juts southward into the lake, with Northwest Bay on the west side, and the island-dotted Narrows on the east. Nonetheless, these snakes are not aggressive, and striking is only used in defense as a last resort. The 2258 foot mountain is found after hiking 3.5 miles on the Tongue Mountain Range Trail. This is a rugged route passing through forested terrain … The record length is 74 ½ inches. Populations at Shelving Rock on the east shore of Lake George and at French Mountain were among those wiped out. The largest is the Prairie Rattlesnake, capable of growing to more than 4 1/2 feet long. Mike and Cheryl here. Stay on trail, wear high boots, watch where you put your hands! This does not. Deer Leap (3.4 miles RT, easy). We packed lunch, snacks and two liters of water each; bug nets, poles and a hat. Some downslope areas are dangerous as hell. You will park at the southern trailhead for the Tongue Range, Clay Meadows next to a quarry. No rattlesnakes. "We KNOW so, a Ranger removed a nice 3 footer at our request from our site (Turtle 24) yesterday !". *Rattlesnakes are found in this area! The summit of Five Mile Mountain is 1.7 miles from the trail that marks the beginning of the Tongue Mountain Loop (described in the overview section) and thus offers a … From here if you have the energy you can head down to the lake for a dip. Timber rattlers range as far south as Florida and as far west as Texas. But, you could also park at the northwest pond parking area, which is a little before the tongue mountain parking, and has a sign for! The other photos show the views down to the lake. Mountain Kingsnake. 1) A myth exists that a cucumber smell comes from rattlesnakes 2) The Tongue Mountain Range is known for harboring rattlesnakes 3) The only place I have ever smelled random cucumber is the Tongue Mountain Range. The tongue picks microscopic airborne particles and gases from the air. I'm not sure of the reason, but it certainly seems like the area around Lake George and the Southern end of Lake Champlain is rattlesnake country. Tongue Range Notes: All six of the following peaks are a part of the Tongue Mountain range on the west shore of Lake George. This trailhead is next to a small quarry. When the tongue slips back into its mouth, it touches a sensitive spot on the roof of the mouth called the vomeronasal organ, or Jacobson's organ. Brown has confirmed the reality of long, wild lifespans that hadn’t been recorded before. The hike out is along the water, however we were getting tired and just wanted it to be done. It’s a Smelly Tongue. You must supply one verifiable piece of information - e-mail address or birthday - in addition to the username - for security reasons. The trail tends to be dry, so it important to bring plenty of water. We were planning on out and back but did the loop and cut off a few miles with a bushwhack out (like a prior reviewer) because we really didn’t have the return trip in us. Very well marked with new markers. Shelving Rock Mountain and Shelving Rock Falls Trail, North Tongue Mountain Range, Five Mile Mountain and Lake George Trail, Uncas Waterfall via Terzian Trail [PRIVATE PROPERTY], Shelving Rock Falls and Shelving Rock Mountain Trail, Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail. When you get to Route 9 turn left to head north. Beautiful views though, just incredible! There are three approaches to Tongue Mountain: Then you'll gradually ascend the southern end of the Tongue Range over 3 nice peaks with great views over the lake below. I hiked the Tongue Mtn trail on Sunday. It should also be noted that the Tongue Mountain range is home to timber rattlers, which are poisonous snakes that can pose a serious threat to hikers. According to the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center, approximately 20 to 30 bites are reported in Colorado each year. We hiked clockwise to fifth peak last fall and counterclockwise to first peak with a bushwhack down to the NWbay trail. Which leads me to believe the tiny minority, that rattlesnakes do in fact give off a cucumber smell. The rattlers were once hunted for bounties, which were outlawed in 1971. You are now at the top of French Point Mountain with more views down to the lake and across to the mountains on the remote east side. select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. They can track the odors of their prey along the ground with their tongues thanks to a smelling organ that’s in the roof of their mouth. In addition, mountains in the Tongue Range are a known habitat for Timber Rattlesnakes. Here you have the choice of continuing straight to head right up into the mountains or head along the bay towards Montcalm Point. Call NYS DEC for hiking trail maps. I think they were extra pretty because it was blue skies, but I thought they were so beautiful! If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the Not a bad idea to visit both, but be wary of rattlesnakes if leaving the trail during the hot months of summer. Harder than expected (from some Catskills 35ers and ADK 46ers). Everything I’ve read indicates that “ rocky outcrops and open grassy areas with … Measuring from 3 to 4.5 feet or more in length, the timber rattlesnake is the largest venomous snake in New York. I have no problem hiking 15 miles when the trail provides the rewards. Took a total of 6 hrs. From there you will follow a nice trail around the shore of the lake to Montcalm Point where you'll have great views of the Narrrows. Large specimens can reportedly weigh as much as 4.5 kg (9.9 lb). And overall a great trail! In the Adirondacks, the snakes also can be found on Tongue Mountain and other spots around Lake George. 76 likes. On the way out I met a family going up who asked if I had seen any. Elapsed time was 7.5 hours. link above. Two color patterns are commonly found: a light phase, which has black or dark brown crossbands on a lighter background color of yellow, brown or gray, and a dark phase, which has dark … Remember that in NH, Fish and Game can and will charge you for some or all expense(s) incurred if you need to be rescued. The state Department of Environmental Conservation notes that timber rattlers usually are three to four and a half feet long, so the one Seth encountered was larger than average—unless his eyes deceived him. In the photos the summit is shown in the upper left hand side of the photo. We did not see any rattle snakes, but we did see a small gardener snake on that flat 5 mile stretch at the end of the hike. I chose to go along the lake first which was a pleasant walk and made good time. Toooo steep toooo much. They wind around several miles of the lakefront and there are plenty of places for a swim. Long day. A great hike on a gorgeous fall day. Two stars because this trail is tooooo long. If you park where it says to, next to the pond type area, from there you walk to your right to the forest preserve path. Trail was not crowded and had plentiful time to look at the views. There is not enough visual rewards for the length of this trail. Great trail with beautiful views. Please include your screen name. 2. Heed the rattlesnake warnings—nearly stepped on one that had just killed a chipmunk and wasn’t going to share its lunch. It was a lot of ups and downs today. The length of the trail combined with the steep terrain makes it a challenging all day hike. http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d...ec/tirafs.html, http://www.esf.edu/PUBPROG/brochure/snakes/snakes.htm, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265UVANce, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265yCNsJC, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265VWAjOK, http://community.webshots.com/user/anorthosite420. The ascent up 1st peak took longer than expected and sometimes required extra caution. If not take a left and head back towards Clay Meadows. The maximum reported total length is 189.2 cm (74.5 in) (Klauber, 1956). To start viewing messages, Dead Last > Did Not Finish > Did Not Start, We camped on Turtle #11. "It's kind of a critical time for mountain biking." Call or text 754-264-1591 for quickest response and to request a list as I have many more reptiles available. Take exit 24 off of I-87 and head east on the Bolton Valley-Riverbank Road toward Bolton Landing. Beautiful views of Lake George and an easy walk along the shore line. No sightings of snakes, just an awesome trail and views. Prairie Rattlesnakes prey on a variety of … Want to be a registered member? Rattlesnakes are almost never found in the High Peaks region (I have never heard of a report). It was a sunny, hot day after a cool evening, so I was watching out and actually hoping to see a rattlesnake. Tip: There is a specific species of rattlesnack that only lives in the Tongue Range so be aware of this, not necessarily scared of this as they certainly are more afraid of you than you are of them. Split Rock Mountain on the “Adirondack Coast” of Lake Champlain is known as a place where the Timber Rattlesnake (Crotalus Horridus) enjoys an almost perfect habitat. Rattlesnakes can be found in many regions around Colorado with the western rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis) being most common. This review is for Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail. Holt (1924) mentions a large specimen caught in Montgomery County, Alabama, which had a total length of 159 cm (62.5 in) and weighed 2.5 kg (5.5 lb). Before we left, Brown grabbed a … The area was one of the few places in New York where timber rattlesnakes had escaped a couple hundred years of bounty hunters, fearful farmers and pet-trade poachers. Access to trails on Rt 9N about 10 miles north of Bolton Landing. Measured 13.1 miles (without going to the point), and 3800 ft. of elevation gain. Great hike, bring lots of water and enjoy the walk. MOS Reptiles. I said "you think so ?" At Split Rock Mountain, they're being kept off trails down to the shoreline. "The reason people like to go there is access to Lake Champlain," Capone said. I ran out of light at the end and hiked with a headlamp. I would recommend going clockwise and doing the mountains first- it will make the second half of the hike more enjoyable. As long as you are prepared for the long miles, it will not disappoint. 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